Because JP tends to get really good boilovers when he brews he usually makes high gravity beers whether he intends to or not. It may have something to do with consumption while brewing, not that any of us know anything about that. The result is always a starting gravity that is higher than anticipated. We put the beer on tap in the shop and it got rave reviews. It was both outstanding and unique. Sometimes things do happen for a reason! The beer can easily be described as a Porter on steroids. This kit has a lot of grain in it, so you may find two grain bags useful.,,,Makes 5 gallons,,,Estimated Original Gravity:1.081-84,,,SRM (Color Range): 39,,,IBU's: 69-72,,,Estimated Alcohol Percentage: 8%,Our recipe kits DO NOT include grain bags or yeast. The recommended yeast(s) can be found below. All grains will come milled.